I just picked up an HP 8620C sweep oscillator with an HP 86245A 5.9 GHz to 12.4 GHz RF plugin on eBay. This time around though, the unit does not work. While it was advertised as a working unit I could not get it powered on and there was no sign of life whatsoever. So before I start troubleshooting and repairing the unit, I thought I would do a quick teardown to see what’s inside and if I could spot anything obvious that was out of the ordinary.

From what I understood, the HP 8620 series was first introduced in the early 1970’s (see here) and the “C” version was introduced shortly after. By the general appearance of the unit I received however, it appeared that my unit was manufactured at a much later date. And as you can see from the datecodes on various components in the later teardown pictures, this unit was built no earlier than 1988. It is quite impressive to see the life of a product line spanning two decades.

Similar to a lot of the HP test equipment in the same era that I had done teardown with (for example, the HP 8671A, HP 5350B and HP 436A), plugin boards are used extensively inside the HP 8620C.

By itself, the 8620C doesn’t do much. It is merely just a sweep control unit. To make it an RF sweep generator, you will need to have an RF module plugged in. According to the manual, there are at least a couple dozens of plugins available for the 8620C covering a frequency range from near DC to all the way up to 18 GHz.

The RF plugin in the unit I received is an HP 86245A which covers the upper C band, the entire X band and the lower end of the Ku band.

The first plugin board (brown) is the A1 sweep generator board. Like many HP equipment back in the days, most of the components have HP part numbers on them. The chip marked 1821-0001 for instance, is a CA3046 transistor array and the eight pin ceramic IC (marked 1826-0785) is an MC34002 JFET input OpAmp. The datecodes suggest that these components were manufactured in 1987 and 1988 respectively.

Next up is the A2 frequency control board (red). Look at the all the trim pots and OpAmps! Given the analog nature, these potentiometers must have been meticulously adjusted to ensure the accurate readings. There are also quite a few relays for switching in parts of the circuit for controlling different ramp schemes.

Here is a closeup of the OpAmps used on the frequency control board (HP part number 1826-1349), they are OP-02 general purpose operational amplifiers.

The next plugin board (orange) is the A3 logic assembly board. As the name suggests, it handles various logic including the startup control and marker trigger generator.

Here is the first visual clue that something was wrong with the sweep generator unit, this is at least part of the reason why the generator was not working. What you are looking at below is the A4 +20V and +5V regulator assembly board and two of the capacitors are clearly damaged. The electrolyte leakage was pretty severe and at least one terminal of each of the caps had rotten away.


Here is a closeup of one of the failed capacitors. It is interesting to see that at least one capacitor on the same board appeared to be just doing fine.

And here is a closeup shot of a transistor on heatsink on the regulator board.

Now moving on to the A5 -10V and -40V regulator board. Again you can see one of the capacitors failed while the other three appeared to remain intact.

Here is a picture of that failed capacitor on the A5 board. These failed capacitors reminded me of the capacitor plague that dogged PC manufacturers back in the lat 90’s.

Both power supply board use SCR crowbars for over-voltage protection and in the event the output voltage swings beyond the predefined value and over-voltage is detected the SCR would be triggered and thus shorting out the supply rail so that the connected circuitry is protected. Shorting the output would in turn cause the input fuse to open and the corresponding power rail would be switched off until it is repaired. Here is a closeup picture of the fuse used on one of the power rails. The fuses can be easily checked via the corresponding test points on the circuit board.

One slot is empty on the main board, and it is reserved for the A6 BCD programming assembly board (Option 001). Since the unit I have does not have that option, the slot remains unoccupied.

The last plugin card is the A7 operations control board which includes the fan PWM controller.


And the picture below shows the backplane where all the daughter boards plug into.

with the plugin boards removed, you can catch a glimpse of the front panel board and the power entry module located on the rear panel.

From a serviceability standpoint, the HP 8620C is not the easiest to repair as besides these easily removed plugin assembly boards, it would take quite some effort to remove the motherboard, the front and the rear panels if any of these areas need to be serviced. Look at the shear volume of the wiring!

Finally here are a few pictures of the HP 86245A RF plugin. At the heart of this 4.9 GHz to 12.4 GHz RF generator is an YIG tuned oscillator. I did a detailed teardown of an YIG oscillator a while back while fixing my Wavetek 907 microwave frequency generator.

As you can see from the pictures below, the output signal from the YIG tuned oscillator goes through an amplifier (GaAs FET power amplifier) and then goes to the output. A small portion of the output signal is routed to the automatic level control (ALC) circuitry for adjusting the output power.

Here is a picture showing the underside of the 86245A. You can see the ridged coax connecting the output port of the RF directional coupler to the output N connector.

Finally, here is a video of the teardown. When I get a chance I will try to fix the 8620C and hopefully I can get it working again.

Be Sociable, Share!

19 Thoughts on “Capacitor Plague? Inside an HP 8620C Sweep Oscillator and HP 86245A RF Plugin”

  • Thanks very much for your informative and quality video.

    My first impression is that changing the electrolytics will fix your problem and that you MAY NOT need to open up the difficult to access rear-panel. If the reg board fails, my first thought was that would be enough to prevent power-up

    On the 19th Feb, this year, 2018, I just bought an 8620C, with 86290C 2 to 18Gigs Plug.
    It’s still waiting to be delivered from my eBay supplier. Very clean cosmetically. Probably ex-college/Uni/Gov lab stockroom. It was listed as not powering up.
    However, before bidding I had it rechecked and it did power up.

    Too late with a bid already placed to alter the description and that couldn’t be changed. So with the ‘not working’ I got it well cheaper than expected. £87.
    Will be extremely well packed as usual and delivered next week. It has the darker front panel and plugin colours, so may well come from a later manufacturing series of the same model?

    Your preview was very encouraging. HP don’t have a reputation from the 60’s thru 80’s for defective components because they manufactured their own ‘in-house’ electronic components for many early products. I’ve rarely heard of component failure from that era but of course there would be a few.

    For this model of Sweeper, perhaps they discovered the leaky regulator board electrolytics by the time my machine was manufactured, perhaps by the early to mid-1990’s, and exchanged them out for a reliable version.

    I’ll let you know in ten days, or so, how it goes.
    Exchange your Caps out. That may be sufficient to fix YOUR problem.
    Leave the rear-panel alone until you’ve done that, is my first choice.

    • Hi Graeme,

      Let me know how yours turn out. The gray panel ones are either A or B models I believe. I have started replacing the bad caps (haven’t got time to finish yet as during the week I am usually pretty busy with work), but I will give it a thorough check before powering it up. I am planing to do another video on it in a week or so depending on how far I get…

  • You can tell when the instrument was first built from the first 4 numbers of the serial number. At the time the unit was built, all HP serial numbers had the format of YYWWXyyyyyyyy, where YY is the last 2 digits of the years from 1960, WW is the week, X is the country of manufacturing and yyyyyyy is the actual build number. So if the serial number was 2842A0000100, your unit was built in the 42nd week of 1988. The A refers to being built in the US (S is Singapore).

    • Although I just checked the serial number on the HP8620C I have. It’s 2633A11604 so it should have been made in 1986, 33rd week. But many components inside have an 88 date code, which seems to be a bit odd. I can’t imagine that all the boards were swapped in this unit?

      • Maybe the unit was a refurbed unit from service. I use to work at HP and at the time the serial numbers were referenced to 1960. If a unit was returned it went to service and has refurbed for a future service replacement. They never updated serial numbers.

  • Mine is coming along well. I bought mine, (see 1st reply) same day Kelly posted his article.
    Powers up fine, everything cosmetically as should be.
    Two front panel pots with non-gripping knobs due loose allen key screws.
    Inside, one of the plastic tuning scale barrels was rattling about, actually fell from position as I opened the top cover. Thought it was broken but no, just slipped out of position.

    Will be testing with an HP432A power-meter and 478/8748 Thermistor mount this week.
    No microwave specy-analyser here. I’d like one as Kelly has; though on eBay still beyond my price range.

    • Great! If you don’t require the 22 GHz bandwidth, you can sometimes find good deals on eBay (if you are patient enough and willing to take the risk and do some repairs)…

  • Uh-oh! Didn’t read the Service manual.
    I used Isopropyl Alcohol to clean stuck front panel knobs.
    So, I dissolved Two Belts.
    1) The CW drive belt and
    2) The CW Vernier belt.

    How awful making them out of something soluble.

    What do I do? Can I successfully use a replacement? Fabricate something?

    Answers pls much appreciated. Otherwise I might have to junk it.


    • Hi Graeme, if you didn’t mention I wouldn’t even know that you couldn’t use IPA to clean the belts, that is crazy. Wondering if you could find some belts made for printers as replacement although they might be too weak.

      • Ho Kwong,

        Yes. There is a clear BOLD WARNING way down in the manual.

        They’re very thin and the runners they travel in is a fraction of a millimeter.
        Thinking of two solutions.
        1) Plastic from A4 sleeves. Use a template from the original and mark out points to pierce with maybe a Dremmel tool.

        The 60’s and 70’s were really as shabby and low-quality as I thought at the time, (from being there), after all.

        2) If anyone reading this, has a broken down Mainframe (UK) with working pointer which move freely. I could arrange to have it couriered and I will recover the bands whatnot.

        There’s a 3rd alternative. Just give up.
        I don’t like giving up as on my money (retirement); it’s not an option.

        Hmmm …

        • Now, I’ve got the Full-Sweep Start & Stop dials working (they never broke)
          And, I’ve found a hopeful supply in British Columbia for the replacements.

          So, as it stands the Sweep Facility is functioning, which is most important.
          I freed up the knobs with Sowing Machine oil. Very good stuff & not corrosive.

          Just had to take a few hostages but that was worth it …!

          • I chased down a complete set of NOS dial pointer bands for all the functions today. HP original boxes. Not cheap and not easy to find but definitely worth it. I’m happy.

            Just remember folks. Never clean your HP8620 Sweeper with IPA (Isopropyl Alcohol). Or any older HP gear for that matter.

            Hope that helps …

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *